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From: Gerry Armstrong <gerry @gerryarmstrong.org>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: 1974 Flagship wedding photos
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:16:49 +0200
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 05:34:09 +0200, Boudewijn van Ingen
<bogie@xs4all.nl> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:24:07 +0200, Gerry Armstrong
><gerry@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 02:34:43 +0200, Boudewijn van Ingen
>><bogie@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:06:25 +0200, Gerry Armstrong
>>><gerry@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>We've put up a more complete set of wedding photos at
>>>>http: //www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/writings/historical/apollo-wedding1.html
>>>>
>>>>The wedding was on December 10, 1974, in Freeport in the Bahamas. The
>>>>ceremony and party afterward are in the Main Dining Room. A number of
>>>>the wedding party photos are in the A Deck and Prom Deck foyers and
>>>>Hubbard's Dining Room.
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps someone can confirm that it's Lisa Caetano in a few of the
>>>>photos, and we'll take out the question marks (??) after her name.
>>>>E.g.,
>>>>http: //www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/writings/historical/apollo-wedding16.html
>>>>
>>>>Also the young lady I think is a Cusworth (maybe Marion Cusworth) at:
>>>>http: //www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/writings/historical/apollo-wedding24.html
>>>>
>>>>If these are Bitty Blythe and Tony Strawn here:
>>>>http: //www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/writings/historical/apollo-wedding27.html
>>>>
>>>>And the two girls dancing here:
>>>>http: //www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/writings/historical/apollo-wedding29.html
>>>>
>>>>And if any other crew can be identified we would be grateful.
>>>>
>>>>© Gerry Armstrong
>>>>http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
>>>
>>>Perhaps a silly question, but how did Hubbard manage to make sure
>>>there were no family members present, without generating too much
>>>opposition?
>>
>>Suzette, of course, was a bridesmaid, so she was present. And I
>>recall that Mary Sue Hubbard and Diana Hubbard Horwich, at least, were
>>off the ship Christmas shopping, I think in the U.S. I have a
>>recollection of Quentin showing up at the reception, but it's unclear.
>>I don't recall Arthur being there. He might have gone to the U.S.
>>too.
>>
>>There was a long term "palace politics" rivalry for Hubbard's
>>attention and affections between Mary Sue , her Communicator Nikki,
>>the Controller's Office and GO personnel as one coterie of courtiers
>>and the CMO girls as another clique. So my belief, and recollection
>>from the time, is that Mary Sue had scheduled her Christmas shopping
>>so that she didn't have to be at the wedding of the Messengers, which
>>Ron, of course, had to attend.
>
>Eehm. That was not actually what I was wondering about. I wasn't that
>concerned with Hubbard's family, but rather yours.

Ah. So you're asking how did Hubbard manage to make sure there were
no family members of the wedding party present, without generating too
much opposition? Well, in the same way he was able to establish and
enforce every rule or condition on board. He was the Commodore and
Supreme Dictator.

>
>In my life experience, most marriages are meant to be "one-time- only"
>events, similar in importance to your actual birth or death. (I do not
>wish to get into a debate about how many times some people have
>experienced either or all these events.)

The Sea Organs, of course, believe that they have experienced all
these events millions or billions of times. Whereas they have only
this one time to get out of the trap and save mankind. So you have to
put a mere mest body wedding in perspective.

Is that too farfetched? No not nearly far fetched enough. Every
Scientologist studies these words over and over and over:

[Quote]

The whole agonized future of this planet, every Man, Woman and Child
on it, and your own destiny for the next endless trillions of years
depend on what you do here and now with and in Scientology.

This is a deadly serious activity. And if we miss getting out of the
trap now, we may never again have another chance.

Remember, this is our first chance to do so in all the endnless
trillions of years of the past.

[End Quote]

They love those words.
http://myreligion.scientology.org/chuckjudge/quote.htm

>
>So what I was actually inquiring about was the presence of the family
>members of all four people getting married.
>
>Were any family members invited? If not, why not? What did these
>family members think about it, at the time?

No family members were invited, nor would it have been permissible to
invite anyone, for security reasons. It was a severe security breach,
with an automatic treason condition, to tell, or even hint, to our
families, or anyone not on the Apollo, where the ship was. It would
not have even been considered by any of the people getting married to
invite any of our families.

At the same time, it was out security and treason to let on to anyone
in the ports we visited that we were Scientology. Everyone on board --
crew, students, Scientologists there for Flag auditing, over 400
people at any one time -- understood and accepted this security rule.
Our cover was Operation and Transport Corporation Limited, a
Panamanian business management company. No $cientology insignia were
allowed ashore or allowed to be visible above decks. No $cn terms
were used ashore. Violations of these and other security rules were
severely punished.

All letters to our families went to, had a return address of, and were
mailed from the Continental Liaison Offices. As far as my family
knew, during my first four years on the Apollo, I was in Copenhagen.
My family's letters to me were addressed and mailed to Copenhagen, and
then airfreighted with the rest of the traffic to the ship via a relay
office, first in Madrid, then Lisbon. When the ship was in the
Caribbean, mail went via RONY, the Relay Office New York. Although the
people in the countries where the ship operated couldn't know we were
Scientology, our families back home couldn't know we were OTC.

There were a few occasions when non-Sea Org Scientologists figured out
where the Apollo was and arrived at the ship without "clearance,"
usually "to see Ron" to get him to correct some "injustice." Such
people were never allowed on board, but "handled" and sent away. They
were treated as SPs, as a security threat, lied to about Hubbard's
being on board or about anything else to get rid of them. I had to
handle a small number of such people and similar security threats
during my years on shore lines.

So there were no family members at the wedding, other than relatives
already on board, because in that circumstance it was impossible. It
would have been out security.

The important fact to be understood about this Flagship circumstance
is the conspiratorial agreement among all of us -- over 400 people.
We all lied to the people in the countries in which we operated about
who we were and what we were doing. We all lied to our families about
the conditions in which we lived, and withheld from them where we were
and what we were doing. We did so because the whole agonized future
of this planet depended on us. Because of this we were at war.
Because we were at war, security was the highest priority, breaches of
security were treason, and familes didn't get invited to weddings.

© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org

 

 
 

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