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From: CL <cl@canyonlycanthrope.moon>
Subject: Re: CHRIS OWEN: "Judge for yourselves..."
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heffer@scientologylies.com (Heffer) wrote:

>On 20 Jan 2003 10:18:35 +0100, CL <cl@canyonlycanthrope.moon> wrote:
>
>>Here's a repost of my 2 December 2001 dissection of just some of Chris
>>Owen's knowing and willful lies, in this case concerning the corporate
>>structure and the power and control of Scientology.
>
>Hey, if you have DOCUMENTATION then Chris will revise on
>evidence.

Oh, Jeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzuuuuusssssss ~FUCKING~ Christ!

~NO~ he W I L L N O T!

That's the W H O L E ~fucking~ P O I N T!

The debased, cretinous, bescaled, spineless, two-faced, barren,
fork-tongued, amoral, twisted, soulless, lying fuck WILL ~NOT~ correct,
alter, amend, or apologize for a single COMMA in ANY his slick
disinformation packages that he has been on SALARY to produce with the
hidden HELP of the British Ministry of Defence.

"Bare-Faced Messiah," "Ron the War Hero," "Piercing the Corporate Veil,"
and all his other MASSIVE FREELY-AVAILABLE packages of lies are HEAVILY
financed and slickly-packaged black-PR ~Bibles~ that are the absolute
BEDROCK FOUNDATION of the ENTIRE Minton-Brooks-Armstrong-Wollersheim-
Lerma-Singer-Lenske-CST cluster fuck.

You think he is EVER going to change or correct a fucking SYLLABLE? PUT
OUT WHATEVER YOU'RE SMOKING. He ~can't~, you fucking idiot! THEY DON'T
BELONG TO HIM. He's nothing but the cardboard-cutout fucking mouthpiece,
JUST LIKE MISCAVIGE on the "other" side.

The fact that he WILL NOT correct his lies, no matter HOW much PROOF is
shoved in his face, is the ~very~ thing that PROVES that he's just part
of a MASSIVE fucking DISinformation--~NOT~ MISinformation--MACHINE!

"If you have DOCUMENTATION"? If I have ~DOCUMENTATION~?! What ~fucking~
rock have you been under?

DOCUMENTATION?

The DOCUMENTATION is all over the Veritas site:

http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/veritas/index.htm

~That~ DOCUMENTATION has been there for AT LEAST four fucking YEARS.
What is the ONLY thing he has ever said about it? "Veritas loons."

DOCUMENTATION?

The DOCUMENTATION is all over the sc-i-r-s-ology site:

http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/

DOCUMENTATION?

How about their fucking page called, uh, "DOCUMENTS":

http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/documents/documentsindex.html

You think ~THAT~ page might have some DOCUMENTATION on it?

What has he said about THAT? ~N O T H I N G~.

The DOCUMENTATION has been being provided, sporadically, for YEARS by
the Public Research Foundation, whose absolutely STAGGERING
research-work press releases (except for some recent ones) have been
collected and webbed here:

http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/newsroom/newsroomindex.html

Owen won't TOUCH the DOCUMENTATION in there. He won't GO NEAR IT!

The DOCUMENTATION was pumped for YEARS into a.r.s. in the most delicious
and delightful form ever by the "ARSCC Librarian" until she apparently
got so fucking fed up with the abuse and contempt from Owen and his
crowd of mangy howling hyenas that she blew them all off and went on to
something more productive, and who can blame her. But it's all here:

http://www.geocities.com/thearscclibrarian/

It was PROVEN to Owen YEARS ago what kind of lying fucking whores
populated hissss preciousssss, "Bare-Faced Messiah" (which Owen himself
just HAPPENED to arrange with the author to essentially put into the
public domain and spread all over the fucking world). Go read the ENTIRE
thread with the subject line "Who's Lying: Northrup or Kaye?" It begins
with the message with this ID:

199805060713.JAA19497@basement.replay.com

One little wrinkle in attempting to follow that thread is that ~somehow~
Owen's first reply to that little surprise package (in which he
attempted to do major damage control, trying to appear nonchalant as he
scrambled desperately to salvage the lying fucking "sources" in BFM)
somehow wound up NOT in the thread, but as an "only message" in its OWN
thread (even though in the ~original~ thread you'll find the original
poster replying to Owen's MIA first response).

That's okay: even those Owen evasive tricks have been tracked down.
Owen's first damage-control reply has this message ID:

rivj1CAtGQU1EwKb@lutefisk.demon.co.uk

So you ~can~ find it in relation to the continuing discussion that
continues IN the thread, but ONLY if you put the above message ID into
the "Find the message with message ID" field in Google's "Advanced Group
Search."

Yeah, yeah, yeah I realize that Russell Miller's name, not Chris Owen's
name, is on BFM, and so Chris Owen can't...and blah blah blah. Don't
waste your fucking breath. It's ALL from the same ACTUAL source, it ALL
has the exact same shit-smell <SPIT!>.

His fucking lies about the submarine incident in "Ron the War Hero" were
documented again and again WITH HIS OWN "DOCUMENTATION," with EVERY
opportunity given to him to CORRECT THE RECORD.

Read the following messages:

8TIH1YUF36951.3132060185@frog.nyarlatheotep.org
2GGVU3V736954.8925462963@frog.nyarlatheotep.org

It was proven CONCLUSIVELY--using the ~SAME~ DOCUMENTS THAT OWEN CITED
IN HIS HATCHET JOB--that Lieutenant Commander E. J. Sullivan, U.S.N.,
Commander Airship Squadron 33--NOT L. Ron Hubbard--was the ranking
officer ON THE SCENE for practically the ENTIRE incident. It was so
fucking clear even ~I~ could follow it, and I don't know jack shit about
WWII or naval history, nor do I ~give~ a fuck. But a fucking TODDLER
could understand it. And the ~only~ thing Owen EVER did was dodge around
and evade the facts at issue and try, again, to do desperate damage
control when he was SUNK TO THE SEA FLOOR and didn't have the ~fucking~
integrity or decency to ADMIT it, and so ran and hid.

He hasn't changed a ~FUCKING~ SYLLABLE.

Why?

He ~CAN'T~! It's NOT HIS TO CHANGE. Wake the fuck up. He is a
disinformation specialist, ~highly~ trained, and is nothing but a
fucking cardboard cutout front for the people SPREADING all these
fucking vicious lies, in which ENORMOUS fucking resources in time, money
and manpower have been invested.

Wake the fuck up. It's "The Official Story," and it is NOT going to
change. They are STILL trying to get as much milage as they POSSIBLY can
out of it, and are going to go right on peddling their slickly-packaged
watery turds all over the world, as far and wide as they can, as LONG as
they can find suckers to drink it up. Like you.

DOCUMENTATION?!

~FUCK~ you.

CL

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The so-called "A.R.S. Week In Review" is a white-washed propaganda rag
whose excuse for an "editor"--Rod Keller--uses extreme socio-political
censorship to hide important material facts from anyone relying on it.
Keller is in a deep state of denial on the existence and power of the
corporation known as "Church of Spiritual Technology" (CST--doing
business as the "L. Ron Hubbard Library"), and the three tax lawyers who
control it: Sherman Lenske, Stephen Lenske, and Lawrence E. Heller. CST
is the owner of all Scientology-related intellectual property, and is
the senior and most powerful corporation in all of Scientology. Keller
"sanitizes" his publication, keeping out of it of all mention of CST and
the non-Scientologist attorneys running it. Anyone in pursuit or support
of truth and integrity should boycott "A.R.S. Week in Review." Read the
newsgroup alt.religion.scientology for yourself and learn the truth.
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